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|Does anybody have lyrics for Cocteau Twins songs?|
Who is this Harold Budd guy who appeared on The Moon and the Melodies?
When did the Cocteau Twins leave 4AD? Why did they split up?
Where did the name "Cocteau Twins" come from?
Did the Cocteau Twins really record music for a Fruitopia commercial?
Has Elizabeth Frazer sung solo? Collaborated with people other than the Cocteau Twins?
There are so many Cocteau Twins and Dead Can Dance albums, where do I start?
What is the name of the hidden fifth track on the vinyl version of the Half-Life EP by Pale Saints?
Who originally wrote/performed the song Blue Flower, which both Mazzy Star and Pale Saints have covered?
How do you pronounce Miki Berenyi's name?
Will This Mortal Coil ever release another album?
What's that dance song that samples This Mortal Coil's Song To the Siren (repeating the line "Did I dream you dreamed about me")?
Who are Cindytalk and what do they sound like?
What about Macbeth - what's the connection between them and Cindytalk or This Mortal Coil?
What is the Infinite Guitar that Michael Brook uses?
My copy of HNIA's Home Is In Your Head ends really abruptly, as though the tape ran out or something. Is this intentional?
What are the differences between the UK and US releases of His Name is Alive's Mouth by Mouth?
What is ESP-Summer, ESP-Continent,... ?
Is M/A/R/R/S' Pump Up the Volume available on CD?
What Japanese-only 4AD releases are there?
What is on the Slowdive compilation Blue Day?
Didn't some of the people in The Moon Seven Times use to be in the band Area?
What's the difference between the Lilys and the Lillies?
What is the name of the extra track on the Lilys' CD In the Presence of Nothing?
|Does anybody have lyrics for Cocteau Twins songs?|
Only Elizabeth Fraser, and she's not telling. (Although there
are some hilarious attempts at transcriptions available on the
Cocteau Twins Web page). All we know for sure are some couplets
that appear on the LPs of Garlands and Head
Things from the forest die here / But I don't /(Note that the last line became a song title on The Moon and the Melodies, as did "bloody and blunt", a phrase from Musette and Drums. Only fitting, since "head over heels" itself was a line from the song All But An Ark Lark from the Lullabies EP!).
Head Over Heels
|Who is this Harold Budd guy who appeared on The Moon
and the Melodies?|
Harold Budd is a composer and pianist (and colleague of Brian Eno)
who works mainly in the genre of ambient music:
sparse, meditative soundscapes that avoid the easy sentimentalism
of "new age". If you enjoyed the quieter piano-based moments of
The Moon..., particularly Memory
Gongs, try Budd's album Lovely Thunder,
which includes an alternate version of that song, entitled
Flowered Knife Shadows. Also recommended are his
earlier albums The Pearl and The Plateaux of
Mirror, both collaborations with Brian Eno. His 1989
album The White Arcades was recorded in the Cocteau
Twins' studio, September Sound; unfortunately, its sound becomes
too treacly for my ears. Your mileage may vary.
|4ad-l reviews of The Moon and The Melodies|
4ad-l discussions on Harold Budd
The Moon and the Melodies
|When did the Cocteau Twins leave 4AD? Why did they split up?|
They left for Fontana in 1991. They said they were tired of being
pigeonholed as "a 4AD band". They left Fontana after releasing two
albums, "Four Calendar Cafe" and "Milk and Kisses" to produce their
new album on their own label, Bella Union. But the band split up in
February 1998 the album unfinished.
In April 1998 Simon Raymonde clarified the situation somewhat. He said "we have no plans to make any more records together as [Cocteau Twins]...we have 3/4 of a record finished but it will not see the light of day for some time yet i fear. robin & I have a small independent label where will continue to find eclectic and interesting bands to release as well as be a platform for our own music. liz is planning on a pop career i think."
For more information on what the ex-members of the Cocteau twins have been up to, please have a look at the whatever happened to... part of this FAQ.
4ad-l discussions on quitting Fontana
4ad-l discussions on quitting full stop
An interview from 1996
Four Calendar Cafe
Milk and Kisses
|Where did the name "Cocteau Twins" come from?|
That fun-loving Robin Guthrie has said misleading things about it in
some interviews, but the actual truth is that it was the name of an
early Simple Minds song. No one having been able to find a song of
this name on any Simple Minds record, Brant Nelson finally asked
Robin himself and was told that it's on the first SM album,
Life In a Day, with different lyrics and the title
" I always assumed that the name 'Cocteau Twins' was a reference to Jean Cocteau's novel Les Enfants Terribles. The book is about two orphaned adolescents - a brother and sister - who live in their own insular, dreamlike world. It certainly seems to fit.
" The song 'The Cocteau Twins' was one they had in their live show before their first album Life In A Day. It was eventually recorded with different lyrics and the title changed to "No Cure" for Life In A Day. The music remained the same. Probably the only place the original song exists is on a live tape Robin Guthrie has, and Robin tells me that the original lyrics were about 'two gay men who were into Jean Cocteau,' thus the origin of the rumor that that's where the Cocteaus got their name, 'from two gay friends who were into Jean Cocteau,' something which Robin said himself in an interview ages ago. Well, it's true in sort of a skewed sense, but it's really that they took their name from this old unreleased Simple Minds song. "
|4ad-l discussions about Simple Minds|
4ad-l discussions about Jean Cocteau
|Did the Cocteau Twins really record music for a Fruitopia commercial?|
Yes indeed, although the commercial's only been shown in the UK.
(Fruitopia, for those not in the know, is a brand of
obnoxiously sugary fruit juice sold by the Coca Cola company. The
ads are unintentionally hilarious pastiches of trippy rave/psychedelic
imagerie and save-the-planet slogans.) Unfortunately there are no
plans for the commercial to be shown elsewhere or
for the music to be released separately. With luck it may show up on
a b-side in a few years. Until then, you can listen to hydroallergenic
on the LP Found Sound from Spooky which
samples from this commercial. Simon Raymonde and Robin Guthrie have also
done the music for a Volkswagon commercial, although I
haven't seen that one.
|Has Elizabeth Frazer sung solo? Collaborated with people other
than the Cocteau Twins?|
Yes of course, and apparently she's got a solo record done for
release in 1999. She said, regarding her duets, that:
" My duets? I did Candleland with Ian Mcculloch and Primitive Painters with Felt. I would like to sing with everybody. Primitive Painters came about because I knew Lawrence. I fucking think it's...oh God! I was so young! You see, I want to get to the stage where I can really take responsibility for what I've done. I ought to be proud of that? Well...but I don't! You see, I just want it all. I want to be at my most mature at any one time, rather than in the next God knows how many years.
Here's a limited discography:
|An Elizabeth Frazer discography|
Song To The Siren
|There are so many Cocteau Twins and Dead Can Dance albums,
where do I start?|
The Dead Can Dance compilation A Passage In Time
might be a good place to start, although some dislike its selection.
The only Cocteau Twins compilation is The Pink Opaque,
which only covers the period 1982-1984 and is also out of print and
hard to find. Perhaps a good recommendation is to cite the
list's collective favorites as determined by vote in 1994. Our
favorite Cocteau Twins albums are Treasure and
Victorialand, and our favorite Dead Can Dance albums are
Within the Realm of a Dying Sun and The Serpent's
You might like to see either the Cocteau Twins and Dead Can Dance web sites for further recommendations, which have discographies, reviews and some song snippets.
|miscellaneous Cocteau Twins 4ad-l discussions|
the pink opaque 4ad-l discussions
victorialand 4ad-l discussions
dead can dance press release
Cocteau Twins website
Dead Can Dance website
A Passage In Time
The Pink Opaque
|What is the name of the hidden fifth track on the
vinyl version of the Half-Life EP by Pale Saints?|
It's called The Colour of the Sky. Incidentally,
the reason for the unnanounced extra tracks on British singles
is that the chart rules in the UK specify that a "single" can
only contain four songs. (Nor may it exceed 40 minutes, which
explains why the Orb's Blue Room single - with one
track - clocked in at 39:58!) If a band wants to have a fifth
song, without having the single considered a more expensive
"mini-album", they just don't officially put it on.
|4ad-l archives: Pale Saints|
|Who originally wrote/performed the song Blue
Flower, which both Mazzy Star and Pale Saints have
It was originally done in the '70s by the band Slapp Happy, written
by Peter Blegvad and Anthony Moore. Julian Lawton writes: "Peter
Blegvad is currently a cartoonist on the Independent On Sunday
(Leviathan) - he also did solo stuff with Andy Partridge of XTC.
Moore also worked as part of Faust's floating line up (or was it Amon
Duul) and I think both were in Henry Cow, as well as Slaphappy. The
one time I saw a Slaphappy LP it was very expensively priced in a
If you're interested in Slapp Happy, they've recently reformed and have a new album out called ca va which has been received well. See the Wire magazine issue 170, April 1998 for example.
She Hangs Brightly
|How do you pronounce Miki Berenyi's name?|
The singer of Lush was half-Japanese, half-Hungarian. (Her mother has
a bit part as a Japanese servant in the Bond film You Only
Live Twice!) "Berenyi" is a Hungarian name, and in Hungarian the
'y' is pronounced like 'j' and vice versa, so it would be
pronounced like ber-REN-ji (with a hard j). It is
a somewhat common name in parts of Hungary.
|Will This Mortal Coil ever release another album?|
Nope, not as This Mortal Coil, but yes, as the hope
blister, Ivo-Watts Russell's new project which appears to be
virtually identical to TMC. An album called ...smiles
o.k. was released on 4AD on 25th May 1998 in the UK. The
album is somewhat different to This Mortal Coil in that the
cover versions are more modern (Cranes and Gus Gus songs mixed
in with David Sylvian, for example) and Louise Rutkowski sings
them all. However, there are connections to This Mortal Coil:
Ivo Watts-Russell produces, Laurence o'Keefe plays guitar,
Audrey Riley on Cello, and John Fryer on mixing desk. So you can
breathe out now.
|4ad-l discussions on The Hope Blister|
|What's that dance song that samples This Mortal Coil's
Song To the Siren (repeating the line "Did I
dream you dreamed about me")?|
Temple Of Dreams, by Messiah. They claim they
re-recorded, not sampled, that bit...
Song To The Siren
|Who are Cindytalk and what do they sound like?|
Cindytalk is Gordon Sharp's band, he having contributed vocals to the
first This Mortal Coil album as well as the Cocteau Twins Peel
Session that's on the 4AD CD/cassette of "Garlands".
Cindytalk sound rather different than that, and much of their output could be described as "industrial", more in the old pre-NIN sense. Very intense and very scary music that ranges from ferocious guitar grinding to spooky ambient piano, with Gordon Sharp's intense wail. If you can simultaneously like early Cocteau Twins, Throbbing Gristle, Harold Budd and the Swans, Cindytalk will be right up your alley. In This World is probably the best place to start. Their records are/have been re-released by Soleilmoon. Distributed by World Serpent Distribution in the UK.
In July 1998 Gordon Sharp has sung on a This Mortal Coil-like project called After The Flood, released on Aeterna records in Seattle. Windy and Carl, Labradford and Warren Defever also contribute to this. See the archive for more information.
|Rough Guide entry|
4AD-L archive: cindytalk
4AD-L archive: aeterna
4AD-L archive: world serpent
|What about Macbeth - what's the connection between them and
Cindytalk or This Mortal Coil?|
Macbeth was a one-off project of Gordon Sharp's, covering the song
Let Me Lift You Up. It appeared on the Volume
number five compilation, which also includes the Cocteau Twin's
version of frosty the snowman. Apparently Gordon
was slated to perform this for This Mortal Coil but he and Ivo
disagreed on musical and production style, so Gordon released
his own version.
|4ad-l discussions on macbeth|
|What is the Infinite Guitar that Michael
It's listed on the albums that he released on 4AD, Colbalt
Blue and Live at the Aquarium. Jeremy Orr
answers this question:
"Brook invented the infinite guitar himself, probably because he loved the sound of the E-bow, which magnetically vibrates a guitar string without actually touching it (a well-known example of this sound is that high-pitched "whistling" melody line at the beginning of U2's "With Or Without You"). Perhaps he was frustrated at its relative cumbersomeness and/or because the player can only use the device on one string at a time. I believe he took a Stratocaster, removed one of the pickups, and replaced it with a pickup-sized device which works the same way as an E-bow [an extra pickup in the guitar's neck]...supposedly, there are [possibly] only three other infinite guitars in existence, which are owned by (I think) The Edge, Daniel Lanois, and Brian Eno."
Live at the Aquarium
|My copy of HNIA's Home Is In Your Head ends
really abruptly, as though the tape ran out or something. Is
Yes. The master tape ran out while they were recording and they
liked the way it sounded.
Home Is In Your Head
|What are the differences between the UK and US releases of
His Name is Alive's Mouth by Mouth?|
Jeff Keibel compares: "When 4AD released Mouth By
Mouth from His Name Is Alive in 1993, both 4AD UK and
4AD/Warner US put out the album, among other countries. What
makes the 4AD UK version the preferred version is that The
Homesick Waltz is included while the US version excludes
it. As it was an unlisted track, and only alluded to in the UK
booklet (on all three formats) in the lyrics pages, it means the
back cover tracklistings are identical on both UK and US
versions but that in order to get The Homesick
Waltz, you must get the UK version. It represents a
whole extra five minutes of playing time so it IS worth
searching for. The UK vinyl has a totally unique sleeve.
It's worth finding just for the fact it differs from the CD
cover so much." Plus, the UK pressing might have a
different version of the Dirt Eaters.
Mouth By Mouth
|What is ESP-Summer, ESP-Continent,... ?|
ESP-Summer is an early name for a collaborative project of Ian
Masters (Pale Saints, Spoonfed Hybrid) and Warren Defever (His
Name is Alive). They released a tape in 1995 called
ESP-Summer on Time Stereo. It's basically piano,
pencil guitar and Warren's samplers, and the beautiful voice of
Ian. Very minimalist. This album has been released on CD with
the name of ESP Continent (Mars Is a Ten) on Karina
Square in December 1995. A US domestic release came out on
Perdition Plastic (May 1996), which they still had copies of
mid-1998. There is also remix EP on 10" vinyl, on Farrágo
Records: don't know whether that one is still available.
Time Stereo has also several other ESP-... tapes (ESP Beetles, ESP Family, Live ESP). They feature Warren but not Ian, and are quite noisy.
Ian Masters - Institute of Spoons
|Is M/A/R/R/S' Pump Up the Volume available on CD?|
Pump Up The Volume is 4AD's only British Number 1
in the Top 40; a one-off project by members of AR Kane and
Colourbox, it's popularity ensures that it's always being
re-issued constantly and in many different configurations. Ralf
Henneking picks up the story:
" It was originally issued by 4AD on CD in 1987 (BAD 707CD); this did not come in a jewel case but in a paper/card gate-fold sleeve with a design similar to the 12" containing the remixes (BAD 707R). It included the four tracks of the two different UK 12"s.
At about the same the Canadians issued a CD using the same packaging (4AD/VERTIGO, 870 210-2) with six tracks (five mixes of Pump, one of Anitina). The Japanese put out two versions: 4AD/COLUMBIA, 20CY-2280 with 4 tracks and 4AD/COLUMBIA, 15CY-5012 with two tracks. The former had a sleeve design similar to the UK CD issue, the latter resembled the design of the regular UK 12''. Both came in slim jewel cases and featured all the stuff that usually comes with Japanese releases.
Finally, there is the US version on 4th & BROADWAY, CCD 452; this included five tracks (four versions of Pump and one of Anitina) and came in a card sleeve using the design of the regular 12''. All these should long be deleted.
In 1993 4AD reissued the CD. This time it came in a digipak and included only three tracks (two versions of Pump, one of Anitina). This one should still be available (through 4AD's mail-order catalog if you can't find it in a store near you.) In identical form this was released in Germany (4AD/ROUGH TRADE, RTD 120.1860.3) and probably Belgium (on Play It Again Sam). France put out two versions: 4AD/VIRGIN, 922492 with two tracks in a card picture sleeve and 4.A.D/VIRGIN, 922312 with four tracks in a digipak (identical to the UK release)."
Kenneth Sooley added some information about the Canadian release in 1993: "it was also re-released in 1993 in Canada by Polygram, using the UK catalogue number. as is common with Canadian 4AD releases, the CD is manufactured in Canada, but the packaging is imported from the UK."
More re-issues of this single were done in the US after the demise of the Warner's deal mid-1998. Richard Holtzman said: "(3 tracks listed but 5 appear on the CD, different versions mixes. Remember the US version of the song is slightly different because of some sample clearance issues, I think I like the UK version better, my 2 cents)"
|4ad-l discussions on m/a/r/r/s|
Pump Up The Volume
Pump Up The Volume Remix
|What Japanese-only 4AD releases are there?|
Several compilations: the 1987 12'' compilation; Pale
Saints Mrs. Dolphin; the Belly EP compilation; Lush's
Superblast EP (containing two other
already-released tracks); and Natures Mortes-Still
Lives, the compilation from 1982 (produced for Japan with
500 imported back to the UK.) There is a Web page that describes
all the Japanese 4AD releases.
|What is on the Slowdive compilation Blue Day?|
Most of the tracks from the singles (Slowdive,
Morningrise, Holding Our Breath) that
preceded their first album. The tracks are:
slowdive www site
|Didn't some of the people in The Moon Seven Times use to be in
the band Area?|
Yes, Lynn Canfield (singer) and Henry Frayne (guitarist) both
were in Area. Henry also has a side project called Lanterna.
||history of area and moon seven times|
|What's the difference between the Lilys and the Lillies?|
The Lilys are an American band whose album In the Presence of
Nothing (Slumberland/SpinArt, 1992) sounds almost more like
My Bloody Valentine than MBV themselves do. (They have since changed
members and sound quite different now.)
The Lillies were a one-shot band consisting of members of Lush, Moose and the Cocteau Twins, who recorded one song (an homage to their favorite football team) for a flexi in an English music magazine. For die-hard collectors only.
|What is the name of the extra track on the Lilys' CD
In the Presence of Nothing?|
It's actually the second to last track, not the last one, and it's
called Threw a Day. The last track is Claire
Hates Me, as
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